Shut Your Fucking Face “Eli Sucks” Crowd

Sep 15, 2013; East Rutherford, NJ, USA; New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning (10) reacts on the sidelines during the fourth quarter of a game against the Denver Broncos at MetLife Stadium. The Broncos defeated the Giants 41-23. Mandatory Credit: Brad Penner-USA TODAY Sports ORG XMIT: USATSI-132614 ORIG FILE ID: 20130915_jla_ae5_110.jpg

Can you suck and win?

That, for sports fans, replaces Shakespeare’s “To be or not to be.”

The dark side of that question and the reason so many people seem eager to allow for the possibility that you can suck and win is because they’d simultaneously like to imagine that you can be great and lose.

That you can be great and not lose occasionally, but never, in fact, have won; that you can be great while also being, in short, a loser.

I don’t agree.

Now, my Godbrother’s a big Cowboys fan.

He sent me this text last night before his Cowboys played Eli’s Giants.

“They Just announced Eli has the worst passer rating among active QBs”

My favorite Mark Twain quote is attributable to former Prime Minister of England Benjamin Disraeli and goes, “There are lies, there are damn lies and then there are statistics.

Statistics cause otherwise intelligent people to fall for the okey-doke of believing that there are more important numbers than wins and losses.

Like a basketball argument I had recently where I asked a reasonably intelligent sports fan: “So if you were a Houston Rockets fan, you’d rather draft Charles Barkley knowing that he’d never win anything for your franchise than Robert Horry knowing that he’d win two rings in his first two seasons?”

“Yep,” he said.

It’s these kinds of people who argue that Eli Manning sucks.

Admittedly, without his two rings, Eli’s numbers are a bit pedestrian.

He’s currently 8th all-time in passing yards, 7th in passes completed, 7th in passing touchdowns, and 38th in passer rating.

That he’s only 16 games above .500 for his career doesn’t help either.

But then there’s those two Super Bowl rings.

Tom Brady has an argument for The Goat with not only his 4 overall Super Bowl rings but also his six total appearances and is joined only in number of wins by former Steeler Terry Bradshaw and former 49er Joe Montana.

I give weight to appearances so to me, Brady has the edge.

Then again, Eli’s brother Peyton actually led two different franchises to Super Bowl wins which is something that nobody ever did before and that’s impressive.

Still, back to Eli: outside of having a guy now like Odell Beckham Jr. who joined the Giants after they’d already won two Super Bowls with Eli, can you name another Hall of Fame-caliber receiver that Eli’s had?

He got a second-hand Plaxico “Cheddar Bob” Burress from Ben Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh, Big Ben having, for most of his career, surefire first-ballot guy Hines Ward.

And if you go back in time, even though he didn’t win with him, Brady once had Randy Moss and currently has Gronk, Montana had Freddie Solomon, John Taylor, Dwight Clark and Jerry Rice – who also won with Steve Young – Bradshaw had Lynn Swann and John Stallworth, Troy Aikman had Michael Irvin, Roger Stauback had Bob Hayes, even Eli’s brother had Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.

Eli’s former receivers are a who’s who of people you’ve never heard of: Mario Manningham, David Tyree, Victor Cruz, Hakeem Nicks, Amani Toomer, not that Steve Smith, Dominick Hixon, Reuben Randle…

Still, the argument goes that winning can’t be the only criteria for greatness because sports like football are team games and too many quarterbacks; Trent Dilfer anyone? Brad Johnson? sneaked through to win one.

My counter to that would be, yeah, one.

You can’t name a quarterback who sneaked through to win two.

To win more than one, you have to do a lot of things.

And none of them can be suck.

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Dickie Bhee is a self-styled lunatic, a Renaissance showman, a Class A, Grade A buffoon, a nigga that believes in the greatness of Niggerhood a social gadfly and a genuine Man About Town.
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